Genesis 2:1 KJV Genesis 2:1 ¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them
Here the author indicates the creation was complete. Note that it could mean more than that which is on the surface. In Genesis chapter 1, God describes the essential creative act but in Chapter 2 he develops namely the creative act of Mankind. In Chapter 1 he only says that he created man and woman in his image. In Chapter 2 he delineates more of his actions and timeline in the creation of man and woman. So it is entirely possible that the statement in Genesis chapter 2 concerning the phrase, "all the host of them" could indicate more than just the creation of the heavenly space. Genesis 2 begins an explanation of some of the creative work that happened in chapter 1 namely the creation of man, family along with an extensive description of the Garden proper.
Note that verse one uses Host, which in its basic meaning refers to an army that goes forth. Most scholars correctly assume this refers to the heavenly bodies.
It however must include the Heavenly beings as well.
Note
Isa 14 and Ezek 28 indicate angelic creation occured before Man's sin. Ezek 28 further intimates that creation occured in close proximity of the Garden of Eden. Note Satan had not fallen yet while the Garden already existed. This flies in the face of some church thought which holds that Satan was created long before creation, and he as lucifer fell and became the devil in a battle ages before humanity and Eden were created.
Revelation 12:7-8 7 ¶ And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
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IVP Notes Rev
12:7–8. One of two angels mentioned by name in the Old Testament, Michael was one of the chief heavenly princes, the guardian angel of Israel (Dan 10:13, 21; 12:1; each nation had its own angelic prince). In early Jewish literature and invocations, Michael was the chief prince of the heavenly host, God’s main messenger (cf. Jude 9); in the Dead Sea Scrolls, everyone was either in the camp of the Prince of Light or that of the Angel of Darkness. Mythical language from Jewish stories about a primeval, heavenly battle leading to the fall of the evil prince and his angels is here transformed: the ultimate battle was fought and won at Jesus’ death and exaltation (Jn 12:31; 16:11). Because Michael was sometimes presented as Israel’s advocate before God, and Satan was generally presented as Israel’s accuser, the image of war here may be one of judicial as well as of violent conflict.
12:9. The dragon is identified with the serpent of Genesis 3, who would be crushed by “the woman’s seed” (Gen 3:15).
12:10. From his portrayal in the book of Job on, Satan is presented as an accuser of the righteous, a prosecuting attorney before God’s court. In later texts, his role of tempter (gaining incriminating evidence) became more prominent, but he always retained his role as accuser; later rabbinic texts declared that he accused Israel day and night before God, except on the Day of Atonement. This verse declares that Christ’s finished work has ended Satan’s power to accuse the righteous.
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Note further that in Ezek Lucifer walks among the stones of fire, been in eden, etc and overlaps in the vision with the King of Tyrus,
Ezekiel 28:12-17 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Note here the author begins by taking up a lamentation upon the King of Tyrus. At the outset this is speaking of a human man who lived on earth at one point. However the statements made about him being perfect, the annointed cherub, walking in the Garden of the Lord, all indicate a deeper thought is going on. Some will say this is merely poetic liscense. However it is not beyond the realm of biblical theology to assume that God could speak to man and also refer to Satan.
Note Jesus did that when he rebuked Peter,
Matthew 16:23 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Further note that this annointed cherub would be cast to the ground. Jesus said he saw Lucifer fall from heaven.
Luke 10:18 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
And ultimately he will be finally cast to the earth without recourse to Heaven's gate
Revelation 12:12-13 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 ¶ And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
God confirms to Job the presence of the Angels at the creation
Job 38:4-7 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
we can know from these passages that Lucifer was created. he was the annointed cherub. He was beautiful. He was created with the creation of the heavens. He was in the Garden of Eden when he was perfect before sin was found in him. Furthermore we know from Scripture that sometimes God speaks of Leaders of Kingdoms and sometimes he refers to the Prince's or Angels influencing them instead.
cf Michael the Prince of Israel, ie the Archangel,
The prince of Persia and Grecia...Note that it could not be a man who withstood Gabriel for 21 days,
Daniel 10:8-14 8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. 9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. 10 ¶ And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. 11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling. 12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. 13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. 14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
Daniel 10:20-21 20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come. 21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
Daniel 12:1-4 KJV Daniel 12:1 ¶ And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Jude 1:9 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Thus I think that the creation of the Angelic Host were created when in verse 1 of Genesis 1 God states that he created the heavens. Chapter 2 of Genesis clarifies that this included the Hosts of Heaven...not just spatial bodies of the universe but probably beings and creatures of heaven. I also contend that they were created sometime before the Creation of the earth but not long before as Lucifer walked in the Garden of the Lord as Ezekiel states. I also note that he fell not ages prior but just a short time. Also further see that the sons of god sang at the creation of the earth.
Job 38:4-7 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Pastor Tom
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